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Sunday January 15th 2006 ,

 

Food and Sex

 

A Chat Hosted by Bita Hunt.

 

More about Bita: Nutritionist & Chef, Bita is a graduate of the Institute for Integrative Nutrition, which is accredited by the American Association of Drugless Practitioners. She has a Bachelor's Degree in Philosophy and Religion granted by the State University of New York. In her Senior thesis, Bita thoroughly researched the yin-yang theory as it applies to diet, health, and spiritual well being. Bita is the product of a macrobiotic pregnancy and a natural foods household. Please read Bita article's on the subject of this chat for more insight into the topic. You can conact Bita @ eyevieblack@hotmail.com

 

[Sun Jan 15 10:59:02 PST 2006] bita

Greetings

[Sun Jan 15 10:59:11 PST 2006] bima

hi dude

[Sun Jan 15 10:59:34 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

Bita, I read you piece this morning and

[Sun Jan 15 10:59:50 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

I find it very interesting!

[Sun Jan 15 11:00:04 PST 2006] bita

Thank you!

[Sun Jan 15 11:01:39 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

Back in 1974 I hade my first taste of delicious macrobiotic genitalia!::biggrin

[Sun Jan 15 11:02:34 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

My lover had not eaten any animal foods in ten years!

[Sun Jan 15 11:03:29 PST 2006] arunima

and ?

[Sun Jan 15 11:03:49 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

It was wonderful!!!

[Sun Jan 15 11:04:20 PST 2006] arunima

i see

[Sun Jan 15 11:05:42 PST 2006] arunima

I am from India so it is nothing new to me

[Sun Jan 15 11:06:10 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

Babara DeAngelis in her book, "Are you the one for me?" devotes a whole chapter to how food affects oral sex , especially from the woman's viewpoint!

[Sun Jan 15 11:06:18 PST 2006]

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[Sun Jan 15 11:07:17 PST 2006] LInda

Hello everybody

[Sun Jan 15 11:07:46 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

Bita, what year were you born?

[Sun Jan 15 11:08:01 PST 2006]

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[Sun Jan 15 11:08:12 PST 2006] Gary

Hi Klara

[Sun Jan 15 11:08:30 PST 2006] klara

what, hasn't started???

[Sun Jan 15 11:08:50 PST 2006] arunima

mentally yes veges are a lot more understanding but physically I thought all were same

[Sun Jan 15 11:09:04 PST 2006] bita

1980 here

[Sun Jan 15 11:09:06 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

You haven't!::smile

[Sun Jan 15 11:09:23 PST 2006] bita

i was born into it

[Sun Jan 15 11:10:01 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

Bita, that could make you a pure macrobiotic!

[Sun Jan 15 11:15:16 PST 2006] arunima

does food effect sexual life in general ?

[Sun Jan 15 11:15:32 PST 2006] bita

i believe it does

[Sun Jan 15 11:15:57 PST 2006] bita

positive or negative depending on the vittles consumed

[Sun Jan 15 11:16:53 PST 2006] arunima

how ?

[Sun Jan 15 11:17:16 PST 2006] bita

energy levels, taste, appetite, smell.......many ways

[Sun Jan 15 11:17:41 PST 2006]

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[Sun Jan 15 11:18:08 PST 2006] bita

Food is energy

[Sun Jan 15 11:18:31 PST 2006] bita

Being overweight affects sex as well

[Sun Jan 15 11:18:46 PST 2006]

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[Sun Jan 15 11:18:54 PST 2006] arunima

that is what I am saying the whole world is non veg in general

[Sun Jan 15 11:19:17 PST 2006] bita

i dont think its meat persay........i think its other foods

[Sun Jan 15 11:19:41 PST 2006] bita

dairy, spices, additives, chemicals, sugar

[Sun Jan 15 11:20:14 PST 2006] bita

these foods are less natural than meat

[Sun Jan 15 11:20:39 PST 2006] bita

refined grain products as well

[Sun Jan 15 11:21:06 PST 2006] LInda

Arunima, Bita wrote an article about food and sex, I tried to look for the link to give it to you and I got temporarily disconnected from the chat

[Sun Jan 15 11:21:22 PST 2006] arunima

thnx

[Sun Jan 15 11:21:26 PST 2006] bita

i believe it is still up

[Sun Jan 15 11:21:50 PST 2006] arunima

I have not read it as yet

[Sun Jan 15 11:21:54 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

Barabara DeAngelis says that all of those strong tasting foods can be tasted in a man's sperm!

[Sun Jan 15 11:22:27 PST 2006] bita

indeed.........such as onions,garlic............anything with sulphur in it

[Sun Jan 15 11:23:34 PST 2006] arunima

yes that is not abnormal, considering the fact that it is an excretion

[Sun Jan 15 11:23:41 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

I know from experience that a woman sex organs can be free of animal foods smell!

[Sun Jan 15 11:24:09 PST 2006] bita

lets talk about goitrogens

[Sun Jan 15 11:24:46 PST 2006] bita

foods that contain anti thyroid factors

[Sun Jan 15 11:25:20 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

Can one make cheese from goitrogens milk?::biggrin

[Sun Jan 15 11:25:27 PST 2006] bita

as we know the thyroid regulates sexual desire

[Sun Jan 15 11:25:36 PST 2006] arunima

yes

[Sun Jan 15 11:26:15 PST 2006] bita

certain vittles contain goitrogens..........too many of these lowers sexdrive

[Sun Jan 15 11:26:30 PST 2006] arunima

that is truee thyroid regulates sexual desire

[Sun Jan 15 11:26:48 PST 2006] bita

the funny thing is, is that the foods on the list are healthy foods

[Sun Jan 15 11:29:12 PST 2006] bita

i seean overlap with goitrogen heavy foods and foods that produce odors "downstairs"

[Sun Jan 15 11:31:05 PST 2006] bita

Is anyone elsegoing to talk? ::tongue

[Sun Jan 15 11:32:20 PST 2006] klara

I'd like to ask about energies. I had a hysterectomy 13 years ago and have been told energy wise I still need to eat as if all were intact. What do you think?

[Sun Jan 15 11:33:23 PST 2006] bita

I would agree with that..........andi also believe that when one has something removed like this ovaries, or tubes tied.some sexual energy is lost

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[Sun Jan 15 11:34:20 PST 2006] klara

I understand the mind is the biggest sexual organ! more than anything else, no?

[Sun Jan 15 11:35:05 PST 2006] bita

i would agree...........being sexy and sensual is a state of mind.........u must believe it yourself if u want others to

[Sun Jan 15 11:35:49 PST 2006] klara

So how does food play here?

[Sun Jan 15 11:36:02 PST 2006] bita

right now, i'm being sensual

[Sun Jan 15 11:36:19 PST 2006] bita

eating foods that make you feel good andlook good

[Sun Jan 15 11:36:36 PST 2006] bita

real whole foods......homecooked

[Sun Jan 15 11:37:43 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

I've intentionally eaten less animal foods to help me to live more comfortably where appropriate relationships and sex are not easy to find!

[Sun Jan 15 11:38:37 PST 2006] bita

do u eat fish?

[Sun Jan 15 11:39:47 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

In I lived in NYC where there are literally millions of newcomers arriving and leaving every year, I would eat more fish and be more focused on sex and relationships!

[Sun Jan 15 11:40:21 PST 2006] bita

fish ishorny food, as i call it

[Sun Jan 15 11:41:33 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

meat:beef, lamb and pork poultry and especially eggs are hornier foods!

[Sun Jan 15 11:42:03 PST 2006] klara

Bita, what did you mean when you wrote that right now you are being sensual??

[Sun Jan 15 11:42:07 PST 2006] bita

indeed............crotch vittles

[Sun Jan 15 11:42:38 PST 2006] bita

i meant that everything can besexy or sensual if u livea life of sensuality like i do

[Sun Jan 15 11:42:48 PST 2006] bita

its a mind set

[Sun Jan 15 11:43:17 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

I've observed the gay comunity which eats alot of omlets and quiche and they want to get it on around the clock with multiple partners!

[Sun Jan 15 11:44:02 PST 2006] klara

so if you are living/eating/thinking as you do, how does what the other affect the relathionship. You eat/do all the sensual things, and if you're partner doesn't??

[Sun Jan 15 11:44:22 PST 2006] bita

indeed...its about me

[Sun Jan 15 11:44:36 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

boriiiing!

[Sun Jan 15 11:44:54 PST 2006] bita

i do it for me........as we all should

[Sun Jan 15 11:45:04 PST 2006] bita

personal journey of sorts

[Sun Jan 15 11:45:10 PST 2006] klara

a relationship involves two

[Sun Jan 15 11:45:51 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

And if you talk about it to others then maybe one or more of them becomes interested in you!@

[Sun Jan 15 11:45:52 PST 2006] bita

indeed.but being sensual is a relationshipwith youself

[Sun Jan 15 11:46:27 PST 2006] bita

first and foremost

[Sun Jan 15 11:46:38 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

leave that vibrator alone!

[Sun Jan 15 11:47:20 PST 2006] bita

I believe what I'm trying to say is greater than what certain folk can comprehend.

[Sun Jan 15 11:48:00 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

What are you trying to say, Bita?

[Sun Jan 15 11:48:49 PST 2006] bita

It's not about base animal need...........although thatis wonderful inits own right........i'm talking about knowing yourself intimately...........

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[Sun Jan 15 11:50:35 PST 2006] bima

is the chat over?

[Sun Jan 15 11:51:48 PST 2006]

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[Sun Jan 15 11:51:57 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

But we don't have to do the Ishayas' Ascension, do we?

[Sun Jan 15 11:52:19 PST 2006] klara

I think being in a relationship opens up possibilities to self-discovery, brings on challenges that when left on your own you may not discover

[Sun Jan 15 11:52:43 PST 2006] bita

indeed..........but we can discover things soo as well

[Sun Jan 15 11:52:47 PST 2006] bita

solo

[Sun Jan 15 11:53:21 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

oooh solo, now you are talking!

[Sun Jan 15 11:53:32 PST 2006] bita

mentally and philosophically

[Sun Jan 15 11:54:15 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

meditation is solo.

[Sun Jan 15 11:54:36 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

yoga is solo.

[Sun Jan 15 11:54:48 PST 2006] LInda

Bita, at an energetic level, what is you opinion about the difference in a sexual relationship between a carnivorous couple and a vegan couple?

[Sun Jan 15 11:55:05 PST 2006] klara

what about a mixed couple?

[Sun Jan 15 11:55:37 PST 2006] LInda

ok, so let's get answers for a) b) and c)

[Sun Jan 15 11:55:43 PST 2006] bita

what type of vegan?

[Sun Jan 15 11:56:02 PST 2006] LInda

macrobiotic vegan

[Sun Jan 15 11:56:17 PST 2006]

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[Sun Jan 15 11:56:52 PST 2006] arunima

I know that macro/vegan couples are more fertile

[Sun Jan 15 11:57:07 PST 2006] bita

i'd say that as long as they matched up, the energy would be good

[Sun Jan 15 11:57:27 PST 2006] bita

i thinks its individual

[Sun Jan 15 11:59:14 PST 2006] bita

sexually, thier styles might differ.and their needs

[Sun Jan 15 12:01:04 PST 2006] bita

their

[Sun Jan 15 12:02:09 PST 2006] bita

what type of birth control does everyone use?

[Sun Jan 15 12:04:15 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

natural prophylatics is what I prefer!

[Sun Jan 15 12:07:36 PST 2006] klara

Guess I was fortunate - went through all of them, including pill, yet at a later age, starting at 35 got pregnant easily, tho had miscarriages in between, ended with 5 births by age of 46

[Sun Jan 15 12:08:00 PST 2006] arunima

wow

[Sun Jan 15 12:08:03 PST 2006] klara

and hasn't started mb til after birth of last child

[Sun Jan 15 12:09:18 PST 2006] arunima

you are a super Mom

[Sun Jan 15 12:09:25 PST 2006] arunima

great

[Sun Jan 15 12:09:28 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

Klara is the most prolific Gemini that I know!

[Sun Jan 15 12:10:04 PST 2006] klara

nah, my husband loved sex, and meat!!!

[Sun Jan 15 12:12:35 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

Well, it's lucky for him that you are not eating meat or you'd probably be living in S.F. and hanging out at women's biker bars!::biggrin

[Sun Jan 15 12:13:15 PST 2006] klara

I like bikes, don't care for bars and haven't a clue what biker bars are, don't think I want to know

[Sun Jan 15 12:14:01 PST 2006] arunima

I think sex for vegan and macro and non veges are all same,, only that I think the non veges are easily infertile

[Sun Jan 15 12:14:04 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

The second letter in your name might be a clue!

[Sun Jan 15 12:15:03 PST 2006] klara

I thought the whole scene of infertility had alot to do with all the chemicals that are being put in today's foods (sic)

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[Sun Jan 15 12:15:55 PST 2006] bita

pollution as well

[Sun Jan 15 12:16:12 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

that mostly and the high amount of sugar and dairy!

[Sun Jan 15 12:17:16 PST 2006] bita

many "vegetarians" subside on sugar and dairy

[Sun Jan 15 12:17:41 PST 2006] klara

we can control what we put into our mouths, how do we control the pollution we breath in

[Sun Jan 15 12:18:04 PST 2006] LInda

by choosinh where we live

[Sun Jan 15 12:18:11 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

miso filters!

[Sun Jan 15 12:22:51 PST 2006] klara

bita, how do you control what you breath in?

[Sun Jan 15 12:23:17 PST 2006] bita

by limiting where you go

[Sun Jan 15 12:23:51 PST 2006] klara

am I wrong, don't you live in NY?

[Sun Jan 15 12:24:05 PST 2006] LInda

also by the time of day.some hours have a higher density of pollution than others

[Sun Jan 15 12:24:25 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

or by passing laws against air polution and limiting the smoke in buildings and public places!

[Sun Jan 15 12:24:36 PST 2006] bita

long island

[Sun Jan 15 12:24:46 PST 2006] LInda

Klara, where do you live+

[Sun Jan 15 12:25:31 PST 2006] klara

Again I'm fortunate, live outside of a main city, up high in the mountains. But do go into the city, at least once a week

[Sun Jan 15 12:30:20 PST 2006] klara

Bita, can you go back and tell us what is the best "brain" food?

[Sun Jan 15 12:31:07 PST 2006] bita

foods that contains omega 3 fattyacids

[Sun Jan 15 12:31:19 PST 2006] klara

fish???

[Sun Jan 15 12:32:32 PST 2006] klara

sorry, can you say which foods have omega 3 fatty acids?

[Sun Jan 15 12:32:36 PST 2006] bita

or nuts

[Sun Jan 15 12:32:40 PST 2006] bita

seeds

[Sun Jan 15 12:33:06 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

flax?

[Sun Jan 15 12:33:51 PST 2006] klara

chestnuts, because of how they look??

[Sun Jan 15 12:34:36 PST 2006] klara

I'm surprized, you mentioned in your article the relationship between the food, it's physical description and what it affects

[Sun Jan 15 12:34:38 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

Muramoto said that the grain for thinking is wheat!

[Sun Jan 15 12:35:54 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

Though he also says that rice is beneficial for the nervous system and the brain.

[Sun Jan 15 12:37:19 PST 2006] bita

as is water

[Sun Jan 15 12:38:09 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

but water contains no fuel!

[Sun Jan 15 12:38:19 PST 2006] bita

it is a solvent

[Sun Jan 15 12:39:33 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

Wellthen, that solves everything!::laugh

[Sun Jan 15 12:40:33 PST 2006] bita

bravo..... ::up

[Sun Jan 15 12:40:45 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

Bita, you would make a good chemist!

[Sun Jan 15 12:41:06 PST 2006] bita

i alomost became one.it was either chemistry or philosophy

[Sun Jan 15 12:41:37 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

Makebe that's why you are a baker and a cooking teacher!

[Sun Jan 15 12:42:00 PST 2006] bita

and a philosopher and a nutritionist

[Sun Jan 15 12:43:00 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

So what can you tell us about your food and relationship experiences?

[Sun Jan 15 12:43:43 PST 2006] bita

dont drink soda

[Sun Jan 15 12:44:37 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

gives you gas? How about iszzies

[Sun Jan 15 12:44:43 PST 2006] bita

huh?

[Sun Jan 15 12:45:44 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

Izzie is a local natural soda make of fruit juice (no added simple sugars!).

[Sun Jan 15 12:46:09 PST 2006] bita

like a spritzer

[Sun Jan 15 12:46:30 PST 2006] bita

i've never drank a coke b4

[Sun Jan 15 12:46:37 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

yes but in a tall, clear glas bottle!

[Sun Jan 15 12:46:39 PST 2006] bita

never had a hamburger

[Sun Jan 15 12:47:05 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

That guy better marry you quick!

[Sun Jan 15 12:47:27 PST 2006] bita

never chewed gum

[Sun Jan 15 12:48:41 PST 2006] bita

i'd make a good clone

[Sun Jan 15 12:48:42 PST 2006] klara

what does gum do or don't do?

[Sun Jan 15 12:48:57 PST 2006] bita

i hate mint and sgar so no gumfor me

[Sun Jan 15 12:48:59 PST 2006] bita

sugar

[Sun Jan 15 12:49:05 PST 2006] LInda

What do you Always eat?

[Sun Jan 15 12:49:08 PST 2006] bita

its bad for digestion

[Sun Jan 15 12:49:13 PST 2006] bita

always?

[Sun Jan 15 12:49:15 PST 2006] bita

tea

[Sun Jan 15 12:49:19 PST 2006] klara

helps chewing?????

[Sun Jan 15 12:49:34 PST 2006] bita

no..............bad for stomach acid

[Sun Jan 15 12:50:23 PST 2006] klara

does that mean if just swallowing, with no food, that creates acid?

[Sun Jan 15 12:50:53 PST 2006] bita

it tricks u into thinking you are digesting

[Sun Jan 15 12:51:46 PST 2006] Cool_Dude

put some of that saliva on a bald spot and hair will grow back!

[Sun Jan 15 12:52:59 PST 2006] LInda

I have to leave now. Bye everybody!

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[Sun Jan 15 12:53:21 PST 2006] klara

Bye Linda.

[Sun Jan 15 12:59:29 PST 2006] klara

Bita, thanks for bringing up something so daring

[Sun Jan 15 12:59:47 PST 2006] klara

The whole topic, I meant

[Sun Jan 15 12:59:51 PST 2006] bita

sure.youre welcome

[Sun Jan 15 13:00:01 PST 2006] bita

i'll be doing other chats in the future

[Sun Jan 15 13:02:04 PST 2006] Gary

Thanks Bita for the chat and everyone please come back next week for a general chat session.